Episode 48

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19th Mar 2025

Lead Generation for Coaches: Create & Promote An Effective Lead Magnet

Effective Lead Magnets for Coaches to Attract New Clients

Summary

In this episode of the coaching clinic, John delves into the importance of lead magnets for coaches.

He covers what lead magnets are, their benefits, and examples such as quizzes, videos, white papers, and eBooks.

John also shares tips on creating valuable lead magnets that potential clients might even pay for, ensuring they can efficiently attract and retain new clients.

Additionally, the episode highlights tools like Kit (formerly ConvertKit) for CRM integration and the Scorecard app for quiz funnels.

Chapters

00:00 Welcome and Update on Angie

00:31 Introduction to Lead Magnets

01:56 Understanding Lead Magnets

03:25 Effective Lead Magnet Strategies

05:31 Protecting Your Intellectual Property

08:17 Examples of Successful Lead Magnets

13:30 Creating Your Own Lead Magnet

14:26 Conclusion and Next Steps

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Transcript
John:

Welcome to the coaching clinic.

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Angie is still not back.

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Please send healing vibes her way as

her voice is gradually recovering,

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it's important that she rests it.

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If you are familiar with Angie on the

show, you'll know that's not an easy

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task, but she's doing her very best.

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She will be better soon.

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She's really hoping to come

back and join us on the show.

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As soon as possible, but we still

have work to do and I'm not going

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to leave you hanging whilst we

wait for Angie to get better.

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So I'm bringing you another

short episode today.

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I'm going to talk about

lead magnets for coaches.

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If you don't know what a lead

magnet is, it's a really important

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part of your marketing process,

for bringing in new clients.

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If you're not using it, you

should be, we're going to talk

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about the best ways to use them.

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And I'm going to share one of my favorite

lead magnet tools that can help you

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massively improve your lead generation.

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Stay tuned for that.

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And let's fling open the

doors to the coaching clinic.

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So welcome back to the show.

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First of all, I'm away from home.

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I do not have my usual mic.

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So I hope you'll bear with me that

the audio quality may not be quite

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what you're used to from the show,

but let's talk about lead magnets.

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so if you don't know what lead magnet

is, let's be clear on what that is first.

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It's something that attracts people

into your funnel and you might then

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be , hopefully following up with them

and you're going to potentially see if

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they're a good fit for you as a coach.

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With lead magnets particularly,

we're talking about something like

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a quiz, a video, it could be what

we call a white paper, which is

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more like a document, it could be

an ebook, it could be a mini course.

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that people could take.

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So it could be any number of

things that people are going

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to get to download from you.

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And in return for that download,

they will be providing you with

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their email address and their name.

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This then gives you the opportunity to

put their information into your CRM.

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Your CRM is your customer resource

management tool, which is where you

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should If you don't have one, you

should definitely look at getting

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one of those pretty soon as well.

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My favorite lead magnet for larger mail

outs and for managing these kinds of

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things at moment for larger outreach

is to use kit formerly convert kit.

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I'll put a link to them.

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In the show notes for anyone interested

in checking kit out, it's a simple

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cost effective way to reach out

and segment your audience groups.

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And and it's very easy to use lots of

help to get you promoting your products

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and services and start getting your

referrals coming through the door.

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It's also really important that

you have a good lead magnet.

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If you're familiar with

the email marketing show,

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you'll know who Kennedy is.

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Kennedy suggests that you have

pretty much your hell and heaven

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island, like you, assume that

they're in hell and you're going

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to help them get to heaven island.

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Where are you going to take

them with that lead magnet?

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You don't want to sell the journey.

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You actually want to make sure that

you are selling the destination.

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So your lead magnet should

offer some kind of solution.

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It might be an insight.

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It might be a guide.

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It might be to learn how to

specifically do something that might

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be difficult to do, or that people

maybe even often pay you for doing.

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And I do think probably some of

the most effective lead magnets

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are ones that people might

actually be willing to pay for.

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Because if you only ever give away

stuff that is free, how important

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is it to somebody to download

that and follow through with that?

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So if it's not something that they

think there's enough value there, that

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they're actually getting a benefit

that would have been worth paying for.

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They might not see the point in

downloading your lead magnet.

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So I would say you may want to give

away something of value here now.

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One thing I have seen that's been

quite good, and this may or may not be

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relevant to you, but some people have

a whole process that they use and that

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they'll take their clients through.

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That might be more specific to people

who do things like book coaching, like

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author coaching, to get you to finish

your personal development book they

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could give you the whole process.

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You might think that's crazy.

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And you think someone could

just go and take that process

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and do it all themselves.

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Yes, they could.

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But the chances of them doing that

by themselves are remarkably slim.

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And when they see how complex the process

is and when they start having questions

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about it is when they may realize that

they could use some help and they're far

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more likely rather than trying to press

through by themselves think maybe I should

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see if I can work with these people.

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So if your lead magnet can do something

like that, I'd say don't be afraid of even

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giving away your complete IP, intellectual

property, a complete framework.

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Far too many people, I talked about this

on my other podcast, Prsent Influence

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last week, but far too many people

are afraid of having that IP stolen.

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And I don't think it's worth spending

that much time on the fear and

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protectionism of trying to protect your

IP from people stealing it or using it.

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First of all, if somebody

is selling your content.

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and making money from it.

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And you find out about that,

you can probably take some

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kind of action against them.

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If they are using your content

and not crediting you for it.

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And it clearly is your IP.

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And you can prove that

you can take legal action.

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If they are just sharing your content

all over the place, but also not

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necessarily using it to make money, but

maybe trying to pass it off as their own.

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Other than legal things, I say

don't worry too much about it.

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Good luck to them to some degree.

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Part of the reason you're in this

in the first place is because

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you want to make a difference.

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You want to help and serve people.

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If there are other people out there

jumping on to do that and to serve

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the same kinds of people, great.

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That's more people that get helped.

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Do they then have, the ability to

create additional content to do

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things in your style with your voice?

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Do they have the stuff to back up

what they're teaching, which they

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have effectively stolen from you?

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They do not.

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And so it may most likely end up

backfiring on them to some degree

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when someone will get to a point with

them that they are just not capable

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of helping with or going beyond.

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They're never going to have your voice.

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They're never going to be able

to do all the things that you

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do in the way that you do it.

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So focus more on what you can do

and who you can help rather than

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who might be trying to rip you off

and rip off your content and IP.

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You don't want to ignore blatant

infringements that might have legal

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remedy, but I certainly encourage you

not to spend too much time worrying

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about that and focus more on what you

do and who you can help beyond that.

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Let's talk, get back to lead magnets.

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I don't think you should worry

at all about your IP here.

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Because when people know that it's

you, even if someone else is using

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it, and someone else recognizes your

stuff, they will come back and say,

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Hey, this is someone else's stuff.

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And then people will start

coming to you as well.

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And they'll say, this is actually

the person who originated it.

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This is the person who has the ideas.

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You then are very much seen as

the expert and the other person

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is seen as the weak imitation,

which is ultimately what they are.

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So you do want to have something

that gets them to a destination.

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I'll give you an example of one

of mine and you're certainly

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welcome to check it out.

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You can download it from the present

influence website, and it is an ebook

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on how to build up your following from.

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Guesting on podcasts you can

actually build up and create lead

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generation and opportunity for

yourself by being a guest on podcasts.

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I've got a very visual clear pathway to

doing that's going to help you be a great

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podcast guest and to get on the right

podcast knowing how to apply how to make

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your pitch the right way, all the things

that are going to help you to be a great

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guest and to leverage that effectively.

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And that's free.

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Now that is definitely a service that I

could and have charged people for in the

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past and still would if somebody wanted

help to work on and implement that.

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There's enough in that free ebook

that you could probably do this by

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yourself and hopefully would still

think that was really good value.

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This guy knows what he's talking

about is someone who I would

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definitely consider working with.

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A new lead magnet that I'm working

on is a quiz funnel and quiz funnels

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can be great because you can actually

give people much deeper insights.

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You could do something like a personality

quiz, although I don't love those.

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I do think people tend to get bought

into this idea of their personality

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being one thing or another, and I don't

necessarily think that's the case.

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personality quizzes can work really

well, and people love to take them.

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Are you this kind of coach?

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Or are you this kind of business person?

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Or are you this kind of

person in a relationship?

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A good friend of mine, Susanna,

she's doing an amazing one

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where she's categorizing people

into different animal types.

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Great, really lovely idea and

nice recognizable things that

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go, Oh, are you this animal?

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Are you that animal?

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And here's the qualities

that go with that.

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Love stuff like that, and it gives

you nice clarity and also for people

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coming into her audience, they're

going to be able to connect over.

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All right, did you wear you

this animal when you took the

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quiz or were you this one?

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So I think I really love that and I

think she has a great idea with that quiz

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funnel that I'm just about to launch.

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And I've been spending a lot of

time working on it is a keynote

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quotient, where you are going to

get a score on the effectiveness

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professionally of your keynote.

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If you are a keynote speaker or wanting

to be a paid keynote speaker, how

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effective is your keynote presentation?

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Is it getting you recommendations,

referrals, everything you want

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it to be doing, or is it not?

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In which case you might want

to do some work about that.

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Also, we start to get into different

archetypes that might be relevant

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to you, which will relate to your

current experience of being a speaker.

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So that might be that you are a thinker

and that you spend a lot of time thinking

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about things that's a great skill and

quality to have, but it could also infer

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that you might be spending too much

time thinking about things, maybe even

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procrastinating a little at times and

needing to focus a little more on action.

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So we give people some ideas of which

of the archetypes that they are likely

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scoring in that make them relevant to

them and which ones they don't score

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in, which may be or have very low scores

in which make them far less relevant.

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So the archetypes that you

have, the higher scores in will

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be the most relevant for you.

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And that gives people an

opportunity to see where they are.

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Are they more of a storyteller?

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Are they a real master

at what they're doing?

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Does the archetype reflect that

they've been in the industry a

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long time and are very experienced?

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Are they a novice just starting out?

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That can give you a nice insight into

where you are, what kinds of things you

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should be focusing on, and where you

need to be paying attention to move up

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to the levels that you want to get to.

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And that then leads people into

hopefully booking a discovery call.

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We don't get to follow up and find

out whether they're going to be a

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good fit for the business or not.

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Now I will put a link to the

scorecard app that I'm using

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into the show notes for you.

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For anyone who wants to check those

out, because I think it's one of

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the best quiz funnels that I've come

across because it can link up really

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nicely with all of your content.

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You can link it up with kit, for

example, which is what I've done.

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And you can have it automatically

going into your CRM so that the

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people are there for you to follow up.

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To follow up with, I would make sure

that you have your nurture sequence.

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Maybe if you're thinking of having a

newsletter account, we'll make sure

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that's going in there as well and

that they have a way to access it.

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But either way, you want to

then have them segmented.

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So this is going to be people who've

come in through your scored card app.

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They've scored themselves in

their keynote quiz, and that's

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where you want to be following up.

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with them as to what their goals and their

level is and where they want to get to.

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So that would be a great starting

point for a discovery call.

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And this is the kind of

thing we're looking for.

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We want to be having people come into

our world, have an interesting thing

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to promote I could put it on any

of my other podcasts, which is much

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more about presentation skills and

influence skills, but more relevant to

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speakers is a great thing for me to be

advertising every week or every show.

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It's also great for LinkedIn

my website and inviting people

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who maybe follow my newsletter.

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I'm going to put it into my newsletter

each week, make sure people actually

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follow through and take the quiz.

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This should be an attractive

proposition for them.

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Now, I think there are some

good ways to think about this.

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The lead magnet can be solving a problem.

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It can be getting them to a

particular aspirational outcome.

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It can be very much a clear how to,

I would encourage you to make sure

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that whatever you come up with as

a lead magnet, have a little bit

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of bounce around where they get

some feedback from other people.

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Say, Hey, look, here's some ideas

I've got for lead magnets, ideally

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people who are in your kind of target

audience, your avatar, and see if

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they think it could be a good fit.

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Or if you want a bit of external guidance

from that, reach out to me or Angie.

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You will find our LinkedIn

information in the show notes

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you can shoot us a message there.

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We'll be happy to tell you

if we think your lead magnet

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idea is a good one or not.

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If you don't have your lead magnet in

place, or you think the one you have isn't

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doing a lot for you right now, this could

be a great opportunity for you to get a

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lead magnet in place that is truly going

to attract prospects for your business

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and help boost your coaching practice.

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I hope this has been a

useful session for you today.

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It's a much shorter one than

usual, and you will hopefully

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be back with us very soon.

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We are in the process of lining up some

new interview guests we've got some great

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people applying, asking to be on the show

and some people we're reaching out to.

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Once Angie's fully better, we'll have

a full on conversation more like the

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usual style of show that you're used to.

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But in the meantime, we'd

love to hear from you.

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Please message us on LinkedIn

or leave us a voicemail at www.

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speakpipe.

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com forward slash the

coaching clinic podcast.

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You can leave up to 90 seconds

of voicemail completely free so

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long as you have a microphone

and we'd love to hear from you.

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We'll most likely feature

you on the show as well.

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If you don't want to be

featured, that's absolutely fine.

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But if you reach out to us on LinkedIn

or speak pipe, we'll get back to you.

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And if you have questions about lead

magnets, so you want to check in on

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yours or get some ideas, let us know.

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Check the links in the show notes for kit.

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As a CRM, certainly check

out other CRMs as well.

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It's not the only one out there.

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It's certainly the one I prefer.

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And you may also want to check out the

Scorecard app site, which is a great tool.

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From Daniel Priestley,

who has awesome books.

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I've had the pleasure of

interviewing him before.

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So if you haven't come across Dan

Priestley before, you certainly should

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check him out, check out his books and

definitely check out the Scorecard app.

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It is awesome.

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All right.

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That's it for me for this week.

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We'll be back with you next Wednesday.

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Hopefully with Angie, let's

close the doors to coach the

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clinic and see you next time.

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Bye bye.

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About the Podcast

The Coaching Clinic
The HEart of Coaching from learning to client sessions, starting to scaling, we've got you covered.
She's direct and he's diplomatic but Angie Besignano and John Ball are both successful coaches with years of coaching experience and very different delivery styles.
Each episode will tackle a different coaching problem from both styles of coaching, with occasional guest coaches and audience interaction. We're going to have some fun digging into your biggest coaching challenges and helping you become an even better coach.

About your hosts

John Ball

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From former flight attendant to international coach and trainer, on to podcaster and persuasion expert, it's been quite the journey for John.
John has been a lead coach and trainer with the Harv Eker organisation for over 10 years and is currently focused on helping his clients develop their personal presentation skills for media and speaking stages through his coaching business brand Present Influence.
He's the author of the upcoming book Podfluence: How To Build Professional Authority With Podcasts, and host of the Podfluence podcast with over 150 episodes and over 15,000 downloads John is now focused on helping business coaches and speakers to build a following and grow your lead flow and charisma.
You can now also listen to John on The Coaching Clinic podcast with his good friend and colleague Angie Besignano where they are helping coaches create sustainable and successful businesses, and the Try To Stand Up podcast where John is on a personal and professional mission to become funnier on the stage and in his communication.

Angie Besignano

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With early beginnings as an entry-level manager in the sales industry, Angie has spent more than 3 decades building her knowledge and expertise to create her master coaching and speaking brand, AngieSpeaks. After climbing the professional ladder, she started her own company and decided to focus her practice on High Performance Coaching. In doing so, she challenges individuals to elevate and grow, no matter what level they are at currently in their personal or professional lives.
Angie has created a strong following through her “tough” but “pragmatic” approach and challenges her clients to find the space that is holding them back the most. In doing so, their outcomes not only compound, but take root, so that results can be permanent. The tools she provides work in the “real” world and show up in their first interaction.
Angie has an unwavering passion toward the journey that fosters a true transformation for those that work with her. She delivers her content and speaking engagements with an authentic enthusiasm and curiosity that creates trust and rapport, allowing for a heightened experience.