Episode 55

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7th May 2025

When Life Happens: Knowing When to Postpone a Coaching Session

Managing Personal Energy for Effective Coaching

Summary

In this episode of the Coaching Clinic, Angie Besignano discusses the crucial but often overlooked topic of coaches managing their own energy.

Angie stresses the importance of acknowledging our humanity as coaches and questions the traditional push-through mentality. She shares personal experiences and highlights the need for self-care to ensure that coaches can deliver high-quality sessions.

Angie invites listeners to share their strategies for managing difficult days and maintaining a balance between personal well-being and professional obligations.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Host's Personal Insight

00:42 The Importance of Energy in Coaching

01:46 Personal Experiences and Lessons Learned

04:18 Balancing Professionalism and Humanity

05:53 Managing Personal Challenges as a Coach

10:59 Engaging with the Audience

13:16 Conclusion and Invitation for Feedback

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Transcript
Angie:

Hey everyone.

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Welcome back to the Coaching Clinic

with your host today, Angie Besignano.

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I am your solo host today, which

of course, I miss my John, but

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I have no problem sitting and

talking with you all about this

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topic that I chose for this week.

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I think it's super important.

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I don't think it's one that we discuss

enough, so let me introduce it to you.

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I'm excited to ask you this question.

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Do you ever consider, and maybe this is

for, some of our more seasoned coaches,

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when is it time for you to call the

session because your energy is off?

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I know there's a lot of, not even

controversy, but there is talk about

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this sometimes and I don't think

that there's enough talk about.

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How we as coaches are not superheroes.

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We're still human.

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And although we have tools and

techniques that we have probably

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learned and accumulated over the

years, we're still human first.

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Anything you do, you're human

first, and if we're not honoring

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ourselves from that human space,

what then happens to the sessions?

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Just something to think about.

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It's been coming up a lot, and I know we

talk a lot about energy and other people's

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energy, but not our own energy as coaches.

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And it's not just who do you become

when you, step into a session.

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Right.

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I all kind of shift a little bit.

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We change a little bit because we're

wearing a different hat in that timeframe.

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But I'm gonna start with this.

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I didn't really pay any

attention to this until.

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receiving, I was going through

the process of getting certified.

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It's in one of the certifications that

I acquired and achieved, I should say.

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at the time I was trained

that, you are the PACE car.

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You have to show up, you have to set

the example, you have to push through.

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you have to push through

almost no matter what.

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Now, I didn't question it at the time

because unfortunately I come from a

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time and a place a generation where

work ethic actually meant something.

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And if you worked hard, you were

able to, move yourself upward.

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It was such different time.

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So it became my pattern and my

habit that pushing through and

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pushing through and pushing through.

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I realized there was something

very fundamentally wrong with that.

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Now, I don't want anybody to come at me.

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I always say that you might feel

differently, and I would love to

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hear how do you manage that, right?

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If you are that person that can

consistently push through no

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matter what, how do you do that?

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Because obviously as We, the

most important piece here is that

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we are delivering, a high level

session for our clients, right?

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We all, that's the goal.

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We want to do that.

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And I do believe, let me just kind of

put the contrast out there, I do believe

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that there are certain circumstances

under which we should push through.

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Now maybe it's illness like, oh, my

allergies are bothering me today.

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Well, I get that they're uncomfortable.

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is it gonna hinder your ability

to deliver that top-notch session?

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or is it something that you

can take medication or push

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through Right in that time?

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I I had a circumstance where there

was a pretty hefty, situation

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in my life, my personal life.

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There was a death of, a family member and.

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My belief system told me,

that I should push through.

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I had no right to be doing that

coaching session, and it wasn't

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because it was a horrible.

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I'm not even sure that anybody

would've necessarily known the

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difference except that I, my energy,

it could not have been the same.

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It could not have been because

I wasn't feeling the same.

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Now, that is obviously an extreme

right, between having an allergy like

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and having a death in the family.

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But I have to be honest, I feel

like one of our bigger obligations

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as a coach or as coaches.

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Is to allow people to

remember that they are human.

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We are all human first.

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And again, I'm not saying

like every little thing that

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happens, you stubbed your toe.

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Now you're not coaching today.

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But I think it's not fair to set

up an unrealistic expectation.

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I think it's important to remain

human while we are coaching our

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clients because they're human.

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Otherwise, I feel like we're

setting up this like unrealistic.

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Negative precedent for them that

they're supposed to able to do.

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I I it's fair.

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You know, one of the practices that I

have is, you know, when I'm about to

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start working with somebody, I literally

add an extra 10 so minutes on the

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first session just to go through some

housekeeping, with them and just tell

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them like, you know, here's the thing.

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If I don't show up for a session

for some reason, like literally

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I, Angie, I'm a no-show.

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I'm probably dead or in the hospital, and

I know that sounds like crazy, but it is.

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I've never not shown up for a session.

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So if I do not show up, there is a

very, probably not good reason why.

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However, on the flip side of that,

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I've had to unlearn and relearn when

it's okay for me to remain human.

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And again, there are so many

degrees of emotional intelligence

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and self-regulation, right?

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If you had an argument with your

spouse or your kid is not doing well,

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they're failing in school, or maybe

God forbid, one of your children is

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ill, does that give you permission?

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To stop showing up.

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And I I kind of again, feel like it's a

very specific, it's a very individual.

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The answer's there.

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And I think, again, there's

degrees of that negativity.

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And as coaches, I think it's important

if I say to a client, so here's the deal.

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If I don't give you 24 hours notice,

it is for you and your benefit.

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If I get sick with the flu, you don't

want me, by the way, to do your session.

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I probably could pull it off and

sound awful and I'm seasoned enough.

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I could probably air quotes, get away

with it, but I don't wanna do that.

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I don't feel like it's fair and

I would rather honor my client.

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Right?

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It's not about honoring me, it's about

honoring my client and say, you know what?

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It's not fair to you.

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I am really under the weather.

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I've had 102 fever.

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Do you ever do a session for the coaches

out there who have been around a while?

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Have you ever done a session when you've

had the flu or you're really sick or

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something is really negatively going on?

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How was your session?

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How were you after that session?

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it could be even something as

simple as having a not so great

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session with the client before.

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Saying, okay, wait a minute.

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I need to manage this negative

energy because I don't wanna

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bring that to my next session.

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Of course, that's not fair.

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So there should be tools that you utilize.

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I do some, you know, quick

meditations to cleanse my emotional

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and mental palette, if you will.

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That's what I say to people.

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I, I do that so that when I come into

a session, I am able to receive you.

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Where you're at and then take that session

organically to where it needs to be.

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Because even if I'm in a great

mood and I had a great session and

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everything is wonderful, I need to be

able to understand and meet with that

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client where they are in that moment.

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And if my energy's too high up and

they're just not even feeling that,

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meet them where they are at first to, so

that I can understand, what's going on.

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I actually had a client who, had

a deaf in the family and this

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was kind of the big learning for

me, and they wanted to do that.

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they they showed up the very

next day for the session.

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And I could tell something was off and

I said, you know, Hey, what's going on?

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And this was within the first 10

minutes and they shared that they

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had a death in the family relative.

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It wasn't like some distant, you

know, aunt Cat something or other.

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and I said, well, you know, how

come you're here today, right?

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Like, you should have let me know.

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You could have let me know,

And they said, well, you know.

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when you had a death in your

family, you showed up for me.

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So that sounds all warm and fuzzy and

like a little kumbaya, but I realized

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that was my moment as a coach that.

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I did a disservice because

that client was ready to push

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through and the eyes are swollen.

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You could still hear the stuffiness.

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They probably were crying like a

minute before they got on the call,

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and I don't do therapy, right?

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I'm not a therapist, so of

course I could say, how are you?

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How are you feeling?

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What do you need?

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But what they're going

through is obviously a lot

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deeper in that moment than.

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somebody who's like, got a snuffle from

an allergy, again, degrees of things.

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So I, I I guess all in all, what

I'm trying to say here is that we

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have an obligation to honor our

clients and then give them grace.

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To them to be human.

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And the same goes for us.

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You know, you never, I'm gonna just

say this for the record, don't want

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me to coach you if I have the flu.

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You don't want me to coach you if

I suffered a death in the family.

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I am human as well, and with all the tools

that are in my toolbox, I am still human

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and I should allow myself to feel the

feels of whatever that is in that moment.

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But now maybe there isn't some

big thing going on in your life.

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Maybe it wasn't an argument with

a spouse or a bad day at work.

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What happens when you wake up on

those days and we all have them

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where you just don't feel like it.

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You feel like doing four or five or

six sessions feels like running on a

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treadmill at full speed the entire day.

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Now, that I think is a big and

challenging question, and I've been

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there, I'm sure that all or most of you

have been there well, what do you do?

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Right?

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Because that's not, to me, that's

to, that's one of those spaces

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where I have to check myself.

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And is it, is it pertaining something

specific or is it really just, you

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know, I'm just getting a little rundown.

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I'm starting to feel it and my,

is my self-care not top notch?

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Am I not in the right place?

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Whatever it is, how do I handle the day?

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And that's where I start.

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Reaching into that tool belt and

saying to myself, okay, I need

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to be able to shift out of this

because I have to go to work today.

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I have to show up for these

people, and I want to give them

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the very best that I have to give.

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And this is not it.

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Right?

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I know it's not it.

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so what I'm curious, I I really am

putting all these questions out there

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because John and I would both love to

engage and hear what you have to say.

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How do you manage yourself?

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When life is happening for you and

you're actually just being human,

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how do you do that in every day?

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I would love to hear it.

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I would love to know what you you utilize.

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Maybe come on the show and have

a conversation with us about it.

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would be fabulous.

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And just remember that most

of the, our clients are going

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to look at us and follow.

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Our example, and again,

learned that the hard way.

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I didn't want this person to show up.

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They were in no way, shape or

form, ready have a session with

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me, but they felt obligated.

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I'd even had clients say, well,

I didn't wanna let you down.

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And I was like, wait a minute.

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You know, this isn't

about letting me down.

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This is your coaching journey.

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So, you know, Sometimes we do have

to check that and ask ourselves like,

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what did I do or say that maybe,

know, led them to believe that.

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They that by not, showing up,

they'd be letting me down somehow.

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there's always our rules, right?

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We have to set up and

parameters and boundaries.

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Like, you know, what a no-show looks

like, and if I'm only not showing up

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because I'm dead or in the hospital,

kind of expect the same from them.

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That is, I think, a mutual expectation.

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That's not unreasonable, but

again, when it's not so extreme.

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How do we manage that?

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How do you manage yourself as a coach

when it's just challenging to be a coach?

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Right.

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We are constantly expelling.

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We're constantly getting rid of energy.

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We're constantly using our energy.

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What are you doing to fill it back up

so that you are still able to deliver

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the best coaching that you can?

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My rule of thumb is that there isn't one.

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My rule of thumb is that I believe that

we have to be honest with ourselves and.

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Think about the client first and say,

am I able to deliver my very best today?

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And if that answer turns out to be no,

then I think we need to have maturity to

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be able to say, today's just not the day.

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I cannot, I cannot move past

this, therefore I'm unable

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to deliver the best of of me.

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Illness, other things, again,

always come into play, but remember.

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You are, you're doing a job,

you are providing a service.

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And how would you feel if I don't

know you're surgeon and not that

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we're surgeons, but you know, going

in for surgery and your surgeon's

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like, yeah, I'm a little off today.

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know, not feeling so great.

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Not feeling as sharp.

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I'm a little distracted.

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Oh, no.

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no.

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So I get, we're not surgeons, but.

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If somebody was that, you know,

providing a service for you that

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you were, that you felt was very

important and they gave you that as an

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answer, how would that make you feel?

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So love to hear back.

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I could go on and on with this

and that's why I'm inviting you.

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I would love to hear what you have to say,

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About the Podcast

The Coaching Clinic
The HEart of Coaching from learning to client sessions, starting to scaling, we've got you covered.
She's direct and he's diplomatic but Angie Besignano and John Ball are both successful coaches with years of coaching experience and very different delivery styles.
Each episode will tackle a different coaching problem from both styles of coaching, with occasional guest coaches and audience interaction. We're going to have some fun digging into your biggest coaching challenges and helping you become an even better coach.

About your hosts

John Ball

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From former flight attendant to international coach and trainer, on to podcaster and persuasion expert, it's been quite the journey for John.
John has been a lead coach and trainer with the Harv Eker organisation for over 10 years and is currently focused on helping his clients develop their personal presentation skills for media and speaking stages through his coaching business brand Present Influence.
He's the author of the upcoming book Podfluence: How To Build Professional Authority With Podcasts, and host of the Podfluence podcast with over 150 episodes and over 15,000 downloads John is now focused on helping business coaches and speakers to build a following and grow your lead flow and charisma.
You can now also listen to John on The Coaching Clinic podcast with his good friend and colleague Angie Besignano where they are helping coaches create sustainable and successful businesses, and the Try To Stand Up podcast where John is on a personal and professional mission to become funnier on the stage and in his communication.

Angie Besignano

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With early beginnings as an entry-level manager in the sales industry, Angie has spent more than 3 decades building her knowledge and expertise to create her master coaching and speaking brand, AngieSpeaks. After climbing the professional ladder, she started her own company and decided to focus her practice on High Performance Coaching. In doing so, she challenges individuals to elevate and grow, no matter what level they are at currently in their personal or professional lives.
Angie has created a strong following through her “tough” but “pragmatic” approach and challenges her clients to find the space that is holding them back the most. In doing so, their outcomes not only compound, but take root, so that results can be permanent. The tools she provides work in the “real” world and show up in their first interaction.
Angie has an unwavering passion toward the journey that fosters a true transformation for those that work with her. She delivers her content and speaking engagements with an authentic enthusiasm and curiosity that creates trust and rapport, allowing for a heightened experience.