How To Plan Your Coaching Year

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John,

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John: Angie,

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Angie: Happy New Year.

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John: Happy New Year to you

too, and to our listeners!

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Angie: Did you set any

New Year's resolutions?

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John: No, I prefer to do annual goal

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setting instead.

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Angie: Yeah, same here.

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In fact, I wonder if our listeners

might like to join us in that.

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John: Oh, I think they might.

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Hang on, let

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me ask them.

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Hello, listener.

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Would you like to join us for a

session on high performance goal

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setting to get the year started right?

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Angie: What do they say?

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John: Let's see, let's have a look.

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Yes, hell yes, get on with it.

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What's the best way to keep yourself

entertained on long coach rides?

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Sorry, we're not that

kind of coaching podcast.

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Yes.

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Okay, we'll take that as a green light.

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Angie: Awesome.

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Let's get to it.

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John: Let's do that.

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Angie: Yeah, so it's that time of

the year, I know we're a little

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into the new month, the new year,

but it's like the time, everybody

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goes, let me get excited about these

resolutions, which we've talked about.

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I'm not a big believer in a resolution.

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That doesn't work for me.

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And I think it doesn't

work for most people.

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John: I think one of the reasons why

it probably doesn't work for most

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people is that most of us have had

that experience of maybe creating those

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resolutions and probably not having

them last more than a couple of days

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or a couple of weeks into the new year.

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And That's disheartening, which is

one of the reasons why it's better,

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just better, just not to do them.

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But I do think any sort of significant

point in your life or in the year and

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the new year is one of those is a good

opportunity to at least reevaluate your

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goals if you're already on your way

with them, or if you haven't got clear

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goals set out for yourself right now to

start doing that and thinking about how

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you want the rest of the year to look,

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Angie: Absolutely.

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I think creating awareness around

what you want is important.

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I think it's just like any

goal that you set for yourself.

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If you're going to take a journey, you're

going to take a trip, there's a map.

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There's a way that you're

going to get there.

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I always refer to an actual map

because people get the visual.

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And I'm like, where's that red pin going?

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What is the goal?

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If you want to go from like New

York to California, then put the

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pin in where you want to go because

You have to work that backwards.

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How are you really going to get there?

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I think resolutions become a little

bit more pie in the sky and I think

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you know many of us and you've

probably experienced this personally

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or with clients that a lot of their

Resolutions are the same ones year

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after year like I'm gonna lose weight.

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I'm gonna get healthy I'm gonna go to the

gym And they don't work because there's

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no or little map process kind of a thing.

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John: Yeah, I think there's

a lack of specificity

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to those kinds of things as well,

which is a problem I do regular group

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coaching and one of the things that

I notice comes up that there's a big

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difference between the people on

those coaching calls who have nice

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specific Objectives that they want

to hit and they're clear goals and

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you can think you know You would

definitely know when you've hit

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that goal and then there's people who have

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vague Goals of oh, I want to grow

Professionally, I think it's one

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I had just this week or I want to

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I just want to be more.

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I want to

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have more.

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I want to earn more

money Like these are not

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specific enough really

to be that motivation.

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I was like how much more money do

you really want to have how much?

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What would that even

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look like?

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You do need to be able

to ask yourself, how

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will I know when I have hit

where hit the goal that I want

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to hit, or at least we'll be able to note

a milestone or a point where, which shows

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me that I'm moving in the right direction.

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Angie: I think we, first of all,

I think we need that anyway.

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I think it's important for everybody

to realize even coaches for themselves.

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It's that those little dopamine

hits are what keep you going, right?

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So it's easiest with weight loss.

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For example, if somebody says I want to

lose 25 pounds it's great to be like,

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all right, I want to lose it But by

when do you have some did you assign

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something because I could say I want to

lose 25 pounds In the next five years.

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That changes the scope of how

I'm going to approach it, right?

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That's five pounds a year, right?

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But if I want to lose 25 pounds in

the next just say 12 months What

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does that then equate to this way?

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I'm aware of what those little goals need

to be along the way and When I hit those

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goals it is going to give me the boost

I need You want to keep going, right?

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It's a little mini goal, and

although somebody might pooh

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Oh what's the difference?

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A pound is nothing.

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Pennies equals dollars.

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I don't care what you say.

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One pound, eventually, when you

compound it over time, is going

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to turn into those 25 pounds.

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You're not losing 25 pounds overnight.

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It's not happening, right?

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Yeah, it's important

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John: let me ask you, Angie,

when you're planning your year,

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cause then we both do this.

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We've talked about it, which is

why we wanted to do this episode.

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Yeah.

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How do you start that process?

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And what does it look like?

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Angie: I definitely decipher between

my personal and my professional

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goals without a doubt, right?

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Some of my personal goals are very

different than, and some of them

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cross over, but I literally think

about is there a need versus a want?

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And that's important because,

I have to figure out my why,

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like why is this important?

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I don't just willy nilly go, Oh,

I want to make 300, 000 this year.

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Okay, but is there a reason for that?

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Why?

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Why do I want that?

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Versus why isn't it just 100, 000?

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So I get very deep into, and you

know this, I'm a big processor.

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I get big into my why so that I

can actually decide whether that

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even should be a goal or not.

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Is, or is something going to get

in the way of my real priorities?

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So I do that first and then when

I write down like three I, I think

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sometimes we overburden ourselves with

way too many goals, way too many goals.

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So I really break it down then

to like the top three in each of

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those categories, the personal, the

professional and set them right now.

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I've got my why is this important

to me and that there is necessity

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because I'm not going to do

anything without necessity.

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Okay.

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Being a component and now, then I can

get into the how am I going to get there?

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So that's the baseline of where I begin.

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John: Yeah, I look for where do I

want to be around this time next year?

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What would I like to be different?

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What needs some work on what are some

of the things that maybe I need to stop

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doing and what are some of the things

that I need to start doing that are going

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to ultimately support me in these goals.

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And so I do think about it at least

initially from that beginning.

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Bigger perspective about the general

journey that I'm on the year ahead.

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And then I pull it back to

the first quarter because I

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don't think realistically we

can plan too far beyond that.

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And I would think, okay this is the

first quarter I look at my, like

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yourself, I do this professionally

and personally look at my.

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Personal goals for the next quarter.

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What the, what are the priorities?

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What are the things I really must

focus on and that are important

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to me that I've decided I want

this I'm clear on why I want it.

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And then do that same with

my professional goals.

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I do the same with my

professional goals as well.

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It makes it so much easier to

start breaking stuff down because

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then, I use planners and stuff.

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Then I can start transposing that

stuff into my planner and start

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looking at it from a monthly overview.

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And then from weekly overviews, then Much

easier to figure out the day to day What

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needs to be happening day to get you to

your end golden and I love that Starting

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from the end backwards work from the end

backwards reverse engineer the whole thing

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Angie: Yeah.

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And you know what, the other thing that

I started to do, and this is in recent

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years, Which is so funny because I've done

this while consulting for companies like,

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what works what doesn't so I actually

now will reflect on the year prior or

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two And say, you know what are my habits?

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Like what really is working

for me and what isn't.

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And that's just part of getting

to know yourself as an individual.

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And in this case for

me as a business owner.

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So for example, this is the first year

that I have employed an assistant.

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And I just have to say, by the way,

what a game changer that was for me.

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So anybody who already has an

assistant might be like, hello,

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duh, welcome to the party.

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But it was something that I resisted

because I'm the one man band now.

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I don't really, I didn't want to

give up, not necessarily the control,

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but I was like, I have the mindset.

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If I can do it myself,

I should do it myself.

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And that was a mindset thing.

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So once I got past the mindset piece,

I was like let me ease into this.

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Let me do a couple of hours a

week and let me see how it goes.

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No contracts.

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I don't want any of that.

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So I had to find something that made

it okay so that I could have that

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exit strategy if it wasn't working.

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So guess what?

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You know this.

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I've said it to you for

a couple of months now.

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Like it's changed.

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my life.

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Love it.

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I'm like, why did I not?

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Because I didn't really know any better.

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And so what did I know about myself?

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I cannot stand administrative work.

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I hate it with a passion and

I'm never going to like it.

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I think I know that.

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My birthday's coming up at 56 years.

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I think I know.

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I hate administrative work and why not

hire somebody who's much more proficient.

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And isn't wasting time.

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And now I honestly, I'm going a

little crazy with this, but that's

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I've been reborn in my business.

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Now I'm excited about my business again.

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Because I'm focusing on the

things that I'm really good at.

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So that was me.

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That may not be somebody else's

experience, but part of me being honest

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with myself was what do I, what am I

really good at and where do I suck?

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And not that I suck at

administration, but I don't love it.

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And it was way too time consuming and it

made me not want to do a lot of things.

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And it left no room for

creativity, I feel or little room.

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We need to have those conversations

with ourselves and be honest and

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say, What works, what doesn't?

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What, where am I great,

and where am I not so good?

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And how can I delegate?

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John: I love what one of my business

mentors says, which always stays in my

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mind, that as a business owner, as a coach

and a business owner, your goal should

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be ultimately to hand off anything that

is not your zone of genius to someone

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else, even if you can do it, even if

you're okay at all, even good at it.

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There's probably someone you could

hire who's actually that is their zone

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of genius And you're always going to

be better off handing those things

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on focusing on where your areas of

genius are the stuff that you need

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stuff that you love doing and that

you want to spend your time doing

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and Give the other things to someone

else who can do them better than you

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Angie: Excuse something.

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Oh, John, I'm putting you

in the hot seat right now.

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This might not even make it to the air.

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John: Might cut this out

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Angie: You might.

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Don might cut this out completely.

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But, so here's the thing.

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You know how to do, you

know how to build a website.

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John: Yes

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Angie: So let me ask you a question.

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How long has your new website

been taking you to build and

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get going and put out there?

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John: Several months

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Angie: Three?

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John: No, more two, two and a half months

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ish.

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Since I actually bought the website and

worked on the domain is more or less.

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Yeah.

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Angie: So let me ask you this, and this

is just an honest question, if you had,

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because you know how to do it, right?

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If you had said to somebody, build my

website, and these are the parameters.

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Do you think that would

have been published by now?

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John: I'm going to say no.

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And the reason is the same reason

that it's not published yet.

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Although.

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It very soon will be because you've been

on my case about it but that it was the

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content that needs to go in there which

I had to which I had to create it had to

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come from me So the brand statement the

products all of those things That had to

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be in there whether I created this or not.

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I still had to come up with that

stuff so putting it into the

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website took almost no time at all.

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Angie: Great.

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No, but do you think that if you

hired somebody that there would

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have been a little more fire?

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Now I've

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John: Yeah, there might have been You

May well have been more urgency you

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probably right about that I probably

would have given myself more urgency

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of like i'm paying someone to do

This is going to cost you money.

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Let's get this taken care of and yeah,

it's definitely one of the things that

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I do struggle with is Creating urgency

and I need that I need my deadlines.

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I need stuff to no high levels of

accountability And perhaps having

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given myself that on my website is true

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Angie: Listen, and this is a good thing.

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I'm not, listen, I'm,

I love John to pieces.

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I'm not poking fun at him to, because

I, there's things that I still need

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to, for as long as I've been coaching,

doesn't mean that I've got every

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single thing dialed in every minute.

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I'm still learning As the world

changes and the atmosphere around

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what we do changes, we have to change.

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When John and I became coaches, there was

no like not that there wasn't Google, but

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it certainly wasn't to where it is now.

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There's so many things that have changed,

so we have to change along with it.

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Hence, why John's even

creating a new website.

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Bigger, better, stronger, faster.

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And the point of me bringing that up is

that, It's hard for us as professionals,

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especially as coaches sometimes to be

aware of what we really need as a business

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owner and me throwing out that this is

the first time I've ever had an assistant.

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I resisted it and resisted it.

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I tried finding people

a couple of years ago.

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I didn't see the financial value.

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So I said no, and then revisited it and

bam, it's changed everything for me.

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It's brought me back to feeling like

I'm falling in love with what I do all

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over again, because I'm not focused

and there's so much back end stuff.

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So John is great at back end stuff.

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John: It's been said

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Angie: cut this out

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John: in, in many environments.

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Angie: sorry.

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So John is great at back end

stuff, but that doesn't mean

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John should be doing it, right?

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Because what is John,

what is it costing him?

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So you know, we always think in terms

like I'm very financially aware,

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and I think that's another thing

that might hold people back from.

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Maybe, doing some of the things

that they'd like to do and then

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say, no, I can just do this myself.

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What it's costing me financially

is nothing compared to what it

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has cost me over years of time.

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There's just no comparison

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John: Yeah.

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Angie: to

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John: Yeah.

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Angie: And sometimes that derails us.

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John: yeah, it's it's easy.

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It's easy to get stuck in stuff as well.

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For sure.

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I am very up for the idea of

delegation, but no, there are probably

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a bunch of reasons why I didn't

particularly want to do it with my

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website at this particular time.

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Although I think.

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Maybe in a couple of years time when

it's going to be time to revamp it

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again I'm going to be getting someone

else to do that because the content's

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going to be there and i'm not going to

want to spend time on it but yeah, it's

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it's easy to get lost in the weeds with

our own goals and we do have to have

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urgency clarity deadlines about what

we're heading towards and give those to

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ourselves and Give my own example about

where I perhaps haven't been as effective

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as that recently with myself as I would

like to have been although I will say

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this By the time this episode goes to

air the website will be there You can go

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and have a look the link's going to be in

the show notes for you present influence.

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com Go and check it out.

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It will be there.

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It won't be perfect, but it will be there

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Angie: I love that you

just said that, right?

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Let's point that out to our listeners

that don't wait for things to

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be perfect before you promote.

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Now, I understand the whole premise of,

Hey, it's you only get one chance to make

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your first impression and all of that.

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But I think some people take

that into Olympic event.

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status, and I'm not saying

John, I don't mean him.

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I just mean that I've worked with people

that in any of their goals might have been

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like and this is the reason, and that's

the reason, or maybe I wanted to get

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one more little certification and that's

just your fear holding you back, right?

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Coming up with the next thing that sounds

amazing, but all it is a distraction

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to either launching or diving into the

new goals that you have for yourself.

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I'm always excited at the beginning

of the year because it's although I

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think we do, you and I talk about this

constantly, we're always self reflecting,

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we're always throwing things at each

other and bouncing things off of each

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other, but I think, historically, it's

become a little bit like, hey, it's

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the new year, what's going to happen?

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John: I don't think you can really look

forward without looking back as well.

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And so I think I, I did this with my,

with one of my coaching groups recently.

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Like we had a call just around Christmas.

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We had another call around new year.

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So the Christmas call, we

did a review of the year.

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And what were the goals and things

that maybe didn't work out for you?

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And what, why didn't

those things work out?

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to give yourself this clarity around

What is maybe some of the things that you

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know, are those were they the wrong goals?

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Do you need to be

focusing on other things?

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Or were there things that you just

weren't doing or paying attention to

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that needed to be Worked on they're

going to help you for whether these

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need to come back into your goals this

year back into your attention or whether

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they're relevant to the new things

that you may want to Work on as well.

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I think that kind of reviewing is really

helpful to know ourselves to understand

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where we've been and what maybe has

stopped us or held us back from getting

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to where we might have hoped we could

have got to not to beat yourself up

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over it, which I think a lot of people.

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It's very easy to do but to have awareness

around all right Yeah, I have maybe a

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record realization that I didn't have

enough accountability around this and

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didn't get this done or Lacked the urgency

or other two took on too many things

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whatever it is for you what has been

blocking you from getting as far as you

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could have gotten that you can learn from?

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And improve on over the next year.

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Angie: I think that reflection

piece, I mentioned that earlier,

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I think it's really important.

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What worked?

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If you've had a goal, let's just

say, and it's been a goal for the

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last five years, it keeps showing up

because you're not getting it done.

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I think that's one of the big,

flashing neon lights at signs that

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saying is should this even be a goal?

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Now, if it's health related, I

usually say to people like, okay,

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nothing wrong with great health.

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Why are we not reaching the goal?

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But sometimes you have to say.

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Should this even be on the radar?

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That's what I mentioned earlier about,

is that just another distraction

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holding you back from other

things that are true priorities?

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It's like when, anybody ever been

on an interview and the person

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interviewing you says, where do you

see yourself in 10 years or five years?

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And I'm like, are you kidding me?

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I don't like, yeah, I have a vision

and sometimes maybe if you have a

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very big ambitious goal that you

want to hit and you know that it

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literally is something that you

have to plan for a couple of years.

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And I've had some of those.

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You, it's, again, no matter how far out

it may be, I'm sure there's going to

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be certain steps or requirements that

are going to get you to that point.

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I still have to put assigned time to it.

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What are the steps year over

year that have to take place?

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So it doesn't matter whether it's

a short term quick fit goal or if

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it is something that's longer term.

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Again, I'm a little leery of what

do I want to do in five years?

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At this point.

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But when I started out as a real coach

and turned it into a real business for

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myself, I did have a really big vision.

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I did.

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Now even as a speaker, I always,

it's funny how my vision has changed.

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I used to see myself on these little

teeny tiny stages and now when I

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envision it, I want those big old stages.

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I want, I almost want to be

like, where's Joel Osteen?

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I want that room.

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And who knows someday I

might, what'd you say?

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John: The Church of Angie.

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You have your own

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Angie: We don't know if you want

the Church of Angie, unless you

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want the express train to hell.

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I don't know about that.

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But anyway, I was thinking

like, my ambitions are changing.

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And and my point is that if I see

that, if I'm really Oh, daydreaming,

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that should actually be on my list.

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That should be something that I'm

not just stuffing away and going, Oh

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please, when am I ever going to be?

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That's not that's, you're not

gonna hit that goal for sure.

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You never, the answer is automatically no.

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With that mindset.

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So sometimes it's even about just

how do I expand on what did work and

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make it even a little bit, the one

degree or the 1% bigger than it was.

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John: This it's interesting to know

something that's come up in coaching

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calls and for about this daydreaming

kind of thing of there is a form of

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positive procrastination and this is

it, where you're dreaming about the

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future or what could be and what can be.

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It's not a bad thing to be doing.

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It's inspiring yourself.

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It's really positive.

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It's not really that you're doing

it instead of trying instead of

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stuff that you should be doing.

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You're doing it to create that picture

for the future to inspire yourself.

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I think often We do devalue that

the visualizations, the creating the

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images of it, the daydreaming about

this to being less important as,

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just write it down and there it is.

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It's why not have your, if vision boards

are your thing, get your vision board

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or write your goals down, but have them

somewhere where you can see them and

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check in with them and re inspired.

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by yourself with the

things you're working on.

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Because one thing's sure I think it was

Jim Rohn motivation is like bathing.

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It doesn't last.

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So we recommend it daily.

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It's it won't last.

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I think it was Jim Rohn but yeah, it's

so motivation will not last Stuff will

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take longer than you think it's going

to take curveballs will get thrown at

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you Life will get in the way and it

even if you have a good why Life may

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stop you from achieving your goals If

your why isn't as big and as strong as

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you can possibly make it for yourself

And so we need to have that we need

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to check in with it and keep ourselves

motivated and on track And ideally

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accountable and this is your coaches.

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You're a coach listening to this If

you don't have your own coach, I know

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we've talked about this in an episode

You may not have heard of if you don't

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have your own coach Who are you being

accountable to for the goals that you set?

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You want to create here who's gonna

who's going to give you the proverbial

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kick up the butt to get into action when

you need It or the encouragement or the

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cheerleading if that's what you want Who's

going to do that for you if you don't

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have your own coach or coaches in your

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Angie: That's a great point.

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That's a great point,

because you might set a goal.

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We usually do, right?

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We set a goal for the year.

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This is what we'd like to see.

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This is what we're projecting, but you

can't wait until November to see if you're

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on track to hit your goals by December.

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So accountability with somebody,

an accountability partner or a

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coach is, I think, super important.

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And at least, if you have a, an annual

goal, let's just say, and you break

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it down into quarterly goals you need

to check in on it every quarter and

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maybe even every month and say, am I

on target to hit this quarterly goal

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that's going to bring me to the next.

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It is really that important

to check in on that.

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You have to, otherwise, you don't

want to get caught with your pants

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down at the end of the year and

say, Oh no, that didn't work.

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John: A thousand percent i'll say this

If you don't actually know What you

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need to be doing on a daily and weekly

basis in order to hit these you don't

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really have goals You just have a bit

of pie in the sky a bit of oh, yeah,

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that'd be nice These aren't really goals

You need to be able to know how you're

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going to achieve it and what you should

be doing on a consistent Basis that you

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can even check in with yourself and say

am I doing this if it's a relationship

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goal You Are you doing your date nights?

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Are you having time to communicate

and be intimate with each other?

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If it's a fitness goal, are you actually

showing up and putting in the work or

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joining the gym or hiring the trainer

that you said you were going to hire?

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What, whatever it is same

with your professional goals.

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Are you doing the prospecting?

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Are you publishing your website?

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Whatever it is that needs to be happening.

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Get that stuff done.

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Get that stuff in place and know what

you need to be doing on a daily and

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weekly basis and protect it Protect

your time around that and that all how

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much time do I need to be doing this?

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Am I working full days?

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What are the hours that you

need to be put into doing this?

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And how are you going to make sure that

you actually have the time to do those

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things that you said are important?

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And need to be prioritized

above those other things

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Angie: And I think that, you know what,

that's so important to, to recognize that

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sometimes you're going to overestimate

the time necessary to do certain tasks.

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So do it so that you can

actually create, a more Oh,

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what's the word I'm looking for?

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Daily routine for yourself.

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You know what I mean?

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So for example, most experts, I'm

not going to get into this whole

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thing, but most experts would say

to you, you need 30, 30 minutes of

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exercise a day, which is good for you.

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Now, again, what we do, how we

do it as a whole different thing.

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But somebody's already put that

formula into place for us a bit.

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You need to figure out your own formula.

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You need to figure out

what's, what works for you.

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And this could be something, some

people are really hell bent on, because

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of so many, other influences, get out

there, do everything first thing in

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the morning and do the hard stuff.

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I'm going to say this.

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Some people do not have that bandwidth

in the morning or that brain power.

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Some people literally are

not morning people, right?

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And they can't, if you ask me to do

my heavy thinking between two and

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five no, Not a good look for me.

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I invest in

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John: it wouldn't work for me either.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I'm for brain power stuff.

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I'm best mid morning, mid afternoon.

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Those are my peak times.

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Although my idea generation

seems to happen more closer

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to bedtime for some reason.

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And I am that kind of person, you'll

be going to sleep and thinking stuff

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up as I'm drifting off to sleep.

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That's the way my brain works.

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I do, but to some degree I would not.

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generally describe myself as

a morning person, but I can

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still do stuff in the mornings.

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I can still push myself to do something.

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It makes me think about this one

thing of having these goals and moving

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forward with them is going to be hard,

but not doing it and not getting the

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things that you really want to be to

have a create is going to be harder.

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So so choose your difficult choose for

want of a better phrase choose your hard.

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Angie: Yeah, I definitely agree.

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something doesn't feel good.

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We avoided our brain.

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Our brain is like working against

us in that space because it's

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like, let me go do something.

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I don't like.

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No, it doesn't feel good.

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It's danger.

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It's this.

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It's that.

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So we have to push through that.

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But, is it hard or is it out of our the

realm of things that we enjoy doing now?

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I'm not saying that life should be

a party every minute of every day.

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Because I do believe there are certain

things that we need to push through

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and get to the other side and break

through our own little, our own little

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roadblocks, if you will, our own detours.

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But that's the thing.

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If you hit a detour, you

don't just sit there.

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I say this all the time in

coaching, you know that.

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You hit a detour, you're not going

to sit there and turn off the car and

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wait for them to move the barriers.

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You're going to find a different way.

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Give yourself that same grace to

figure out your special sauce,

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what really works for you.

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John: Yeah.

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Oh

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Angie: you definitely achieve more.

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John: i'll share this.

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There was a game changer for me and for

clients that i've shared this with it

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has been A game changer for them as well

You do have to think about Who do you

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need to become in order to achieve the

things that you say you want to achieve?

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You Who do you need to be showing

up as now to make that happen?

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Because it's not the case with goals.

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And I think this has often been taught

wrong in the personal development world.

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It's not the case with goals that

you get to the thing and suddenly the

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click, I know the switch clicks and,

you, poof, you are now this thing.

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You have to be that now.

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You have to be showing up as the

person you need to be showing

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up as in your own life now.

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Not perfectly.

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It's not going to be perfect, but it

needs to be that you're doing that

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and becoming consistent with it.

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For you to actually make progress here

like these targets goals are targets that

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we're aiming for You may hit it and you

may hit it by the time you say you want

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to hit it by or you may not But have you

failed if you don't it's not a pass fail.

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It's maybe you got close to it Maybe

you're actually somewhere on the target

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board But not bullseye where you want

to be or maybe you've exceeded your

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goals, but you're gonna be Somewhere and

you're still Even if you don't get it,

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you're gonna be closer to the outcomes

you want than you would be if you

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didn't have these things in your life.

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So don't even look at it as a pass fail.

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It's not it's the direction

that you want to move in.

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And if you have too many targets

that you are aiming for, you

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are not gonna hit one of them.

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So you do want to.

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Limit yourself and the amount of targets

that you're actually aiming towards

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Angie: Listen, it's so funny because

as you were saying all of that,

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it was, it brought me back to, I

used to play some serious softball.

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I'm a lefty.

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I throw a

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John: I wouldn't want to I would not want

to go up against you in softball angie.

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That would scare me

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Angie: Seriously, but I was a pitcher.

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I either played, I either pitched or I

was first base because I was a lefty.

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Anyway, and the interesting thing

was that I, what I got to know

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about myself along with my coach,

by the way, when I was really young.

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And I don't know, I played softball

from 12 years old up until about

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35, 34, something like that.

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Long time.

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Pitching, that's me.

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But I learned very young that I have

this natural twist when I release the

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ball that would bring, no matter what

I tried with my hand to, to navigate

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and manipulate my hand that I was still

throwing the ball in this same way.

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I have this like inner spin that

I just didn't know how to undo.

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And my coach tried and tried and he was

like, I don't know what to tell you.

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And then one day what I did was.

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I moved over on the pitcher's mound.

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I moved to the left a little bit.

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And guess what?

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All of a sudden the spin didn't matter.

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The spin was strike after strike.

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And it wasn't the thing that I

thought I had to keep trying, right?

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I wasn't going to stop playing

because I couldn't pitch great.

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I was a good pitcher.

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I just had this twist and I couldn't,

I didn't know how to stop doing it.

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I'm holding my hand going, stop it.

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What are you doing?

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I have no control.

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So instead of trying to fix the

hand, I just moved a little bit left.

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And now, that natural twist that

I had was right in alignment.

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Right where it should

be, most of the time.

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Which is what a good pitcher did.

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Right here.

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I was trying to fix something

that really wasn't broke.

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It was natural and I had to embrace it.

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So I know that's a crazy story, but

that's what I thought about when you

626

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said that, because that was one of

the times in my life where I could

627

: 00:33:56

identify the natural challenge.

628

: 00:34:00

I tried to change it.

629

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I had no luck.

630

: 00:34:03

So then what did I have to do?

631

: 00:34:05

I had to shift the whole body

so that the wrist, And the hand

632

: 00:34:09

movement made sense and brought me

to the goal, which was a strike.

633

: 00:34:13

John: Yeah

634

: 00:34:14

Angie: That's a crazy story, but

635

: 00:34:15

John: You could but you could only

have figured that out by being in

636

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the game By continuing on with it

and that same for all of us as well.

637

: 00:34:22

As I many people will wait

until everything is perfect.

638

: 00:34:26

All the stars are aligned before

taking action and going for it before

639

: 00:34:30

moving stuff out from being that

sort of conceptual stage in the mind.

640

: 00:34:34

To being more of a manifest reality.

641

: 00:34:36

I'm always reluctant to use that word

because there's so much shit around

642

: 00:34:40

manifestation, but you get what I mean.

643

: 00:34:42

It's like manifest reality, just being in

the, something that's in the real world.

644

: 00:34:46

And and I see this all the time with

people of when they're when I work

645

: 00:34:50

with people, I'm creating actions that

are going to start moving forward.

646

: 00:34:53

The, we want strategies.

647

: 00:34:54

We want actions that are going to

move forward these goals towards these

648

: 00:34:58

targets that we have for ourselves.

649

: 00:35:00

You can tell pretty quick the

people who are going to see

650

: 00:35:02

results sooner than the others.

651

: 00:35:05

And to me, the ones who are working

both the inner and the outer game.

652

: 00:35:12

So they're working on themselves, but

they're also working on making something

653

: 00:35:15

happen in the world around them.

654

: 00:35:16

I think when you have a good plan of

making sure that you look after the

655

: 00:35:22

inner game, that's going on for you,

the mindset and everything else your

656

: 00:35:25

health, your wellbeing, your energy.

657

: 00:35:27

That's all stuff that's really

important and supports everything

658

: 00:35:31

else that's going to be going on.

659

: 00:35:32

You have to have it and you

have to have stuff that's

660

: 00:35:35

taking action in the real world.

661

: 00:35:36

I see.

662

: 00:35:37

way too many people, and I do call

this out when I see it, who just

663

: 00:35:42

have the internal stuff going on.

664

: 00:35:44

That's their action steps.

665

: 00:35:45

It's all stuff I'm going

to work on with myself.

666

: 00:35:47

I'm going to spend some time

to think about this as well.

667

: 00:35:50

We need something that takes you

out of thinking and into practical

668

: 00:35:55

action, because that is where

you're going to see results.

669

: 00:35:59

My, my favorite I often be, I often

will be asked what my top favorite quote

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: 00:36:03

is, and it is from Lao Tsu, who was

a teacher to Confucius, that to know

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: 00:36:09

and not to do is to not truly know.

672

: 00:36:13

So you can know something in your head,

but unless you actually do something

673

: 00:36:16

with it, you're not really going to know.

674

: 00:36:18

It's conceptual knowledge, it's not

practical knowledge, and there's

675

: 00:36:21

a big difference between the two.

676

: 00:36:23

You can figure things out

when you're in action.

677

: 00:36:26

You can't figure them out just

all together in your head.

678

: 00:36:28

You will never get to that point.

679

: 00:36:30

You have to put the stuff into

action and do something with it.

680

: 00:36:34

And then our ability to be adaptable and

flexible and all the good things that

681

: 00:36:39

get us past any obstacles or problems

that come up will come into play.

682

: 00:36:44

But our brains are just not capable

of figuring all those things

683

: 00:36:47

out before we take any action.

684

: 00:36:51

Angie: Absolutely, how do you learn?

685

: 00:36:52

Through experience.

686

: 00:36:53

I could learn anything in a tech,

think about a surgeon, right?

687

: 00:36:57

Oh, top of the class.

688

: 00:36:58

I graduated top of the class, but

I've only done one of these great in

689

: 00:37:02

depth brain surgeries, Miss Angie.

690

: 00:37:05

Really?

691

: 00:37:05

And then I get somebody who's maybe

graduated middle of the class,

692

: 00:37:08

weren't the best, weren't the worst,

but they've done a thousand of them.

693

: 00:37:11

Yeah.

694

: 00:37:11

Yeah.

695

: 00:37:11

Where do you think I'm going?

696

: 00:37:13

I'm going to the thousand guy because

he's got the experience, what could

697

: 00:37:16

happen, what did happen, just knows

how to do things in the moment.

698

: 00:37:20

Like.

699

: 00:37:21

All day long, think about it.

700

: 00:37:23

So yeah, and you have to

give yourself again that

701

: 00:37:26

John: Yeah.

702

: 00:37:26

I agree.

703

: 00:37:27

Angie: do it.

704

: 00:37:28

John: I've often used the example of

if you need business, if you need a

705

: 00:37:31

specific business advice, do you go

to the to the college professor who's,

706

: 00:37:35

he's been teaching business for decades,

but never actually had any practical

707

: 00:37:40

business experience, or do you ideally

go to, I'm giving this away, but do you

708

: 00:37:45

go to the person who's been in business

and has lived it and put all the stuff

709

: 00:37:49

into action that the professor probably

only has a conceptual knowledge of,

710

: 00:37:53

maybe ideally, Go to both, get a bit

of both, but more than anything else

711

: 00:37:57

you want the practical knowledge.

712

: 00:37:59

You want to see what things look like

in action and to speak with somebody

713

: 00:38:03

who isn't just in the conceptuality

of things or the knowing the data and

714

: 00:38:09

information, but someone who knows

what happens in business and what you

715

: 00:38:13

need to be doing to make that happen.

716

: 00:38:15

Angie: Yep.

717

: 00:38:15

I agree.

718

: 00:38:16

Good stuff today.

719

: 00:38:18

John: Where do you stand?

720

: 00:38:19

This might be a sort of closing

off thing, but where do you stand

721

: 00:38:21

on rewarding yourself for goals?

722

: 00:38:24

Do you think that's important?

723

: 00:38:26

Angie: I think for me,

let me start with me.

724

: 00:38:30

For me, the reward is the achievement.

725

: 00:38:32

It's hitting the goal, right?

726

: 00:38:34

I did it.

727

: 00:38:34

I worked at it.

728

: 00:38:36

I fell.

729

: 00:38:36

I lip skidded, but I hit it.

730

: 00:38:38

I did it.

731

: 00:38:39

There's great value in that.

732

: 00:38:43

I'm not, I have to be honest and I'm

sure there's some psychiatrists and

733

: 00:38:47

psychologists out there with really

pretty letters at the end of their last

734

: 00:38:50

name that are going to go, you're wrong.

735

: 00:38:53

I'm just going to say that in my

personal experience and my experience

736

: 00:38:58

as a coach, the reward system

stops working when you're five.

737

: 00:39:03

It's just, if it's do you need to have

a reward for everything that you set

738

: 00:39:08

out to do as an adult professional?

739

: 00:39:10

So I don't really know, I'm not really

a fan, obviously, trying to say that

740

: 00:39:14

graciously, but I'm not like, oh maybe

if you lose 25 pounds and you want to

741

: 00:39:20

go buy a new wardrobe, go for it, right?

742

: 00:39:22

That's great, but it's not just a

reward, it's probably a necessity.

743

: 00:39:26

You lost 25 pounds, go do it.

744

: 00:39:29

Go buy the new clothes you need!

745

: 00:39:30

John: I have mixed feelings about it.

746

: 00:39:32

I've certainly used coaching been

in coaching programs where rewards

747

: 00:39:36

have been encouraged and we get people to

Create and take rewards for themselves.

748

: 00:39:40

And part of that is because there are

749

: 00:39:42

some people who just don't they don't

Do really do anything for themselves.

750

: 00:39:46

They don't even think they don't

spend any time to play and have fun.

751

: 00:39:51

And I think just in terms of if that, if

it just helps some people have a bit more

752

: 00:39:54

balanced, then it's a good thing for that.

753

: 00:39:56

I'm unsure about how effective it

is in terms of personal entrainment.

754

: 00:40:02

It's given we're not dogs Although some of

our psychology may work in similar ways,

755

: 00:40:06

but we don't just they're all good boy.

756

: 00:40:08

Good girl Here's a treat, you

know because you did the trick.

757

: 00:40:11

Yeah, exactly that I think

there's a limit You're right.

758

: 00:40:15

There's a limit to how much that stuff

really works One of the things that I

759

: 00:40:18

have used and you're welcome to take it or

leave it if you find it helpful or not But

760

: 00:40:23

for some of my clients who felt that they

needed something more with their goals

761

: 00:40:27

can be to tie in some of your service

and contribution goals particularly,

762

: 00:40:33

this is particularly for professional

goals that you may have, financial goals

763

: 00:40:37

that you may want to hit, to tie in some

of your service and contribution goals

764

: 00:40:41

to those that because it's a reward to

yourself as well to be able to maybe make

765

: 00:40:45

a donation to an organization that you

want to support or to be able to Sponsor

766

: 00:40:50

somebody or to do a good thing for your

community or whatever else that you create

767

: 00:40:56

service and contribution goals and link

them to your own goals because you're

768

: 00:41:01

going to be turning up your accountability

massively because the goals, the

769

: 00:41:06

outcomes of your goals are no longer just

770

: 00:41:08

about You getting what you want is

also that Other people are going to

771

: 00:41:13

get something that's going to be really

valuable to them as well your goals

772

: 00:41:18

Suddenly become about much more than

you They become about being able to help

773

: 00:41:22

others and being in those positions.

774

: 00:41:23

So I think if you don't have service

and contribution goals, currently

775

: 00:41:27

linked to your more specifically to your

professional goals, have a think about

776

: 00:41:32

doing that because I think it could be a

great way to, to turn up the urgency and

777

: 00:41:36

accountability for what you want to be, to

have and create in your professional life.

778

: 00:41:42

Angie: Yeah, I think I

want to be really clear.

779

: 00:41:44

I want to clarify something.

780

: 00:41:45

I think that's great.

781

: 00:41:46

I think, paying things forward

or giving back contributing is

782

: 00:41:50

just something that I think I do anyway.

783

: 00:41:52

There's things that I

just do personally as, and

784

: 00:41:55

sometimes it's about

doing things pro bono.

785

: 00:41:57

Sometimes it's about

tying an outcome to it.

786

: 00:42:00

So I'm all about that, but I also

want to make sure I'm clear, like I

787

: 00:42:04

believe that we need to celebrate our

788

: 00:42:07

accomplishments.

789

: 00:42:08

So I don't know if reward is the word

that I use, but I do think that we can't

790

: 00:42:15

achieve any milestone to, get to the

bigger piece without celebrating it.

791

: 00:42:20

Because it's important.

792

: 00:42:21

We are working.

793

: 00:42:22

We are accomplishing.

794

: 00:42:23

We're doing something.

795

: 00:42:24

and

796

: 00:42:25

I think that's very individual.

797

: 00:42:26

I think how we do it is

really what I was saying.

798

: 00:42:29

I don't respond well

to Oh I lost 25 pounds.

799

: 00:42:32

I'm going to have a piece of chocolate

and that's counterproductive.

800

: 00:42:35

We're not doing that.

801

: 00:42:36

But but still celebrating them and giving

yourself that positive reinforcement.

802

: 00:42:42

Like I really can do this.

803

: 00:42:44

It really is working.

804

: 00:42:46

This is exciting.

805

: 00:42:48

I still get excited about goals after

all these years, and I know you do too.

806

: 00:42:53

So you want, you can't just

overlook and bypass, otherwise

807

: 00:42:57

there's no sense in having them

808

: 00:43:00

.

Otherwise there's no dopamine.

809

: 00:43:01

So we definitely need to make sure

that we do to some degree or some

810

: 00:43:05

level celebrate the milestones for

811

: 00:43:08

John: I know you're one of I

know talking about burnout is

812

: 00:43:11

one of your specialized areas.

813

: 00:43:13

And I do think we are, I do think we

are still very much in a culture where

814

: 00:43:18

it's all about hustle, hustle and grind.

815

: 00:43:21

And everyone thinks that's what

you have to do all the time.

816

: 00:43:24

But it does ultimately,

817

: 00:43:26

If that's all you do, it

will lead you to burnout.

818

: 00:43:29

There's no two ways about it.

819

: 00:43:30

That's the

820

: 00:43:31

road that

821

: 00:43:31

you're on If you don't know how to play

and celebrate and have fun in your own

822

: 00:43:36

life That's just not

823

: 00:43:37

something that you feel

guilty about it that famous

824

: 00:43:40

entrepreneurial guilt that people

often talk about because it's not work.

825

: 00:43:45

It's not moving

826

: 00:43:45

not advancing not moving the needle

827

: 00:43:47

on my professional life, whatever else

Start giving yourself a break, Brené Brown

828

: 00:43:52

talks about this exceptionally well in her

829

: 00:43:55

content.

830

: 00:43:55

About becoming more wholehearted.

831

: 00:43:57

Like the whole thing she saw about these

832

: 00:43:58

people, she was describing as wholehearted

833

: 00:44:00

was that they knew how to play.

834

: 00:44:02

And the lesson that she took away from

that was that she needed some play in

835

: 00:44:05

her life for herself, with her family,

for the connection time, that piece, that

836

: 00:44:10

balance piece was really missing for her.

837

: 00:44:13

And I think, if you want to tie

celebrations, rewards, whatever else

838

: 00:44:16

to your goals in that respect, that's

a healthy thing, it's going to help

839

: 00:44:20

you have a much better life balance.

840

: 00:44:23

Stay off that hustle and grind train

is like there are times for hustle

841

: 00:44:27

and grind, but it has to be in balance

Whatever balance looks like for you with

842

: 00:44:32

those other aspects of your life as well

843

: 00:44:35

Angie: Oh, no, absolutely.

844

: 00:44:36

If you're grinding all day, every day,

you are going to hate what you do and

845

: 00:44:40

everybody around

846

: 00:44:41

you.

847

: 00:44:41

That is a true outcome.

848

: 00:44:43

You're going to be like,

I don't even want to see

849

: 00:44:44

these people.

850

: 00:44:45

I don't care about the

kids, the dog, the spouse.

851

: 00:44:48

I don't care about my food.

852

: 00:44:49

I don't care about anything.

853

: 00:44:50

I'm too tired to even

think about all of that.

854

: 00:44:52

So I won't get into that

855

: 00:44:53

But yes, you're right.

856

: 00:44:55

John: And chat with us.

857

: 00:44:55

We'll we'll have fun with you.

858

: 00:44:57

We'll play

859

: 00:44:58

Angie: Yeah, we need to

have, we need to be playful.

860

: 00:45:01

That's one of my intentions this

861

: 00:45:02

year is to be more intentionally play

862

: 00:45:05

like just because that's

who I am naturally, right?

863

: 00:45:08

So to just take off the hat and just be

who I am and be a little silly and playful

864

: 00:45:13

because I feel good when I do that.

865

: 00:45:15

Silly.

866

: 00:45:16

John: for this year playful?

867

: 00:45:18

Angie: It might be.

868

: 00:45:19

It might be.

869

: 00:45:20

Playful Is a great word for me.

870

: 00:45:22

I was doing some things

while I was hanging

871

: 00:45:24

out with my daughter recently,

and she literally rolled her

872

: 00:45:27

eyes at me going, like, how

873

: 00:45:28

old are you?

874

: 00:45:29

I'm like, who cares?

875

: 00:45:30

I still, my brain doesn't

realize how old my body is.

876

: 00:45:34

It doesn't really care.

877

: 00:45:35

So yeah, so silly and playful?

878

: 00:45:37

is definitely going to lead to more

smiles by the end of the year for sure.

879

: 00:45:42

John: I love that.

880

: 00:45:43

Yeah, I think play is a great, at

least a great intention to have

881

: 00:45:46

in their play and balance and fun.

882

: 00:45:48

And I certainly have that on.

883

: 00:45:50

Yeah, my, my word for this.

884

: 00:45:51

Yeah, I think I see a

lot of people doing this.

885

: 00:45:52

I think I have a word for this year.

886

: 00:45:54

My word for this year is, oh, gosh,

I really haven't thought about this.

887

: 00:45:59

Energy.

888

: 00:45:59

I'm focused on energy.

889

: 00:46:02

Angie: Okay.

890

: 00:46:03

And I

891

: 00:46:03

John: my word

892

: 00:46:04

Angie: about energy.

893

: 00:46:05

I love energy because it's

all the things, right?

894

: 00:46:09

So that's great.

895

: 00:46:11

John: us know what your

word for the year is.

896

: 00:46:13

If that's inspired you to think of

897

: 00:46:15

one or what your goals

you're setting for the year.

898

: 00:46:16

We'd love to

899

: 00:46:17

hear them and any

takeaways you may have had

900

: 00:46:19

from the session or anything

we haven't talked about that.

901

: 00:46:22

Maybe you think, Oh, I think this

is important for goal setting.

902

: 00:46:24

We'd love to hear from you as well,

but by no, in no way do we think we

903

: 00:46:27

have all the answers to everything.

904

: 00:46:29

You're just getting what

905

: 00:46:30

50 years worth of plus of coaching

experience from the two of us.

906

: 00:46:34

Angie: For sure.

907

: 00:46:35

John: I'm

908

: 00:46:35

counting indeed but

it's been a fun episode.

909

: 00:46:38

I think this

910

: 00:46:38

has been a great way to start the year

and after holidays and bugs that have

911

: 00:46:43

been going around and all

of this, we finally got

912

: 00:46:45

around to being able to do this again.

913

: 00:46:46

And we've got much more ahead

and maybe even some guests coming

914

: 00:46:50

up for you . So that's going to

be a little different for us.

915

: 00:46:52

But certainly.

916

: 00:46:54

The people we're going to bring

917

: 00:46:54

you are going to be amazing value for

you, too So start looking out for those

918

: 00:46:59

episodes coming up and who knows what

919

: 00:47:01

other news we'll have for you But

we'll be back again next week.

920

: 00:47:04

You can expect more regular shows from

us again Now the holidays are over

921

: 00:47:07

and we're happy to see

you back with us as well.

922

: 00:47:10

We will look forward to seeing you on

the next show I Do you go check out

923

: 00:47:14

any of the links that you want to from

924

: 00:47:16

how to contact us in the show notes?

925

: 00:47:17

You can also leave us a voice

message Go to speakpipe.

926

: 00:47:21

com forward slash the

coaching clinic podcast.

927

: 00:47:23

You can

928

: 00:47:24

leave us a voicemail there.

929

: 00:47:25

It's free to do We'll probably feature

you on the show if you do it And we'd love

930

: 00:47:29

to hear from you or leave us a message

on linkedin or on twitter Or send us an

931

: 00:47:32

email.

932

: 00:47:32

We've already been hearing

from some people who would like

933

: 00:47:34

to come and be on the show.

934

: 00:47:36

We're looking at

935

: 00:47:36

some new features, lots of

things coming up this year.

936

: 00:47:39

It's going to be exciting.

937

: 00:47:40

Angie: Very exciting.

938

: 00:47:42

John: So we'll see you next time.

939

: 00:47:44

Angie: Yeah.

940

: 00:47:45

Bye for now.