Episode 43

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Published on:

12th Feb 2025

Make Your Coaching Website More Effective

Key Essentials for Your Coaching Website: Boost Your Online Presence

Summary

In this episode of the Coaching Clinic, we discuss the crucial elements every coaching website should have. With Angie still recovering, the host shares insights from several resources like Donald Miller's Coach Builder program, Michael Port's Book Yourself Solid, and Taki Moore's expertise in coach marketing. Highlighting the importance of having clear products or services for sale, establishing a relationship with your audience, and creating a professional and trustworthy online presence, this episode provides valuable tips for coaches looking to enhance their websites.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Update on Angie

00:50 Essentials for Your Coaching Website

01:33 Valuable Tools and Resources

03:12 Importance of Having Something for Sale

05:20 Clarity and Niching in Coaching

07:05 Building Trust and Credibility

09:16 Lead Magnets and Email Marketing

15:09 Professionalism and Domain Names

17:38 Conclusion and Contact Information

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Transcript
John:

Welcome to the coaching clinic or for some of you welcome back and you may

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already notice that something is missing

or rather someone Angie unfortunately

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is still a little unwell and is taking

some extra time to have a full recovery

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and When her when she's feeling better

and when her voice is fully recovered

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and she will be back back and sharing

lots of good stuff with us but I didn't

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want to leave you empty handed for an

episode this week so we're gonna have

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another short ish episode which is just

gonna be me by myself whilst Angie is

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away but hopefully she'll be back as

soon as possible so please do send some

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healing vibes out for Angie so that she's

back with us on the on the podcast ASAP.

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Today Let's talk about essentials for

your coaching website things that you

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must have things that you probably

shouldn't have And things that are nice

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to have good to have if you possibly

can So let's get the doors to the

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coaching clinic open and start the show.

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So welcome.

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As with last time, I'm

missing Angie at the moment.

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So you're just getting me by myself, but

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I'm going to keep it short for you.

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And if Angie has some stuff she'd like

to add on this, we'll maybe record

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another episode and have a bit of a

deeper chat on this in the future.

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But for now, as this is something that

I've been working on, and we talked about

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coaching websites recently, I want to

talk about essential things to make sure

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that you have on your coaching website

Now there have been several valuable

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tools that i've encountered recently

One of them would be the coach builder

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program and book from Donald Miller

another would be Be the Book Yourself

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Solid program, which I had encountered

before originally from Michael Port.

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I think Michael is still tied to the

business in some way and still by name

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at least Still associated by name at

the very least although I think the

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company is now run by some Different

people that he has effectively sold

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that off But still a very valuable

resource and some good communities around

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both of these As well as coaching and

guidance for people who are looking to

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grow and develop coaching businesses.

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I would also add one of my mentors in

coach marketing is someone called Taki

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Moore and if you haven't already connected

with Taki I think he is to me the expert

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in coach marketing especially in helping

coaches get to ten thousand a month and

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more And to even know hitting your first

million a month kind of thing These

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are the kinds of people he works with

I would say he's absolutely an expert

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in this area primarily for business

coaches, although that certainly could

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be helpful to people outside of the

business area of coaching as well So

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that would be my guidance to some of

the places that you might want to turn

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to for beneficial resources, guidance,

and mentorship along the way with your

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marketing and your online presence.

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There are some essential

things that I think you must

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have in a website as a coach.

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And the number one thing I'm going

to say to this is something I learned

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from one of my personal mentors, Chris

Ducker, the Youpreneur guy himself,

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That really stuck out for me is one of

the reasons I actually in fact Probably

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the main reason I ended up working

with Chris privately Is because I heard

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him say this in conversation with Pat

Flynn That if you are a service and

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have a website with nothing for sale

on it Then you are wasting your time.

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You must have something for sale on

your website And I know that there

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are coaches out there who don't

at that time, I was one of them.

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Can you imagine having that wake up

call as like, Oh, there's not actually

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anything for sale on my website.

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It just talks about coaching.

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And isn't that nice and lovely.

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I fixed that very quickly.

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And that has never been

an issue for me since.

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And if you were to go and look at my

coaching website, now you will see that

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even though you cannot directly buy a

product on there because nearly everything

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I have is sold through a discovery call

because I ultimately we're going to be

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working together on a personal level.

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I am not just going to

let people buy that.

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I want to connect with you first and

make sure that it's a good fit for you

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and a good fit for me and that we're

going to get results working together.

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So we are going to have a strategy

session before we ever get as far

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as, you being able to purchase

from me, but there are very clear

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programs for sale on the website.

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So if you have a website or an

online presence that doesn't have

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a store available or a product

available for people to buy or at

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least book in a discovery call to

know what product or service they

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could buy, Then that is something

you may want to fix pretty quick.

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Now, it could also be that you have

maybe a book that people can buy or

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a online program that people could

actually just purchase there on the site.

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Great.

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If you have those things ready to go,

then they should definitely be on your

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coaching website for your audience to buy.

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One of the biggest.

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issues I've seen with many

coaching websites that I've looked

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at has been a lack of clarity

as to what they actually do.

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So they'll talk about coaching, but

they won't actually explain what the

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coaching is or what the outcome or

transformation is that's being offered.

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We've talked on this show before

about avoiding being too general as

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a coach and going in for some level

of niching that even though you may

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end up working on multiple areas with

your clients, you still need to have

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some level of niching so that you are

specifically offering a transformation

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to the people that you work with.

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That has to be what's

attractive to people.

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Generalist coaching is

very, very hard to sell.

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Not that it's impossible, it's just hard.

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Why make things that hard for yourself?

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It may be just because there's a

little resistance to niching down

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into the area that you coach in.

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I've seen coaches websites where

they do have products for sale, but

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there's no clarity as to what those

products are or what you'd be getting.

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So they're asking you for potentially,

five hundred pound dollars, euros,

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a thousand, two thousand or more

without having any clarity what

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the product really is other than

maybe a name and a box to click on.

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So you need to have some clarity,

but think about it this way.

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have a relationship with the people who

have landed on the site, maybe someone

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has just come and found you through

an online search, and it's the first

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time that they've encountered you and

your coaching, there's no relationship,

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there's no trust there at the moment,

so Do you really think that people

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are in a position that they're going

to feel the green light to just take

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go on the first thing that they find?

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That's going to be rare.

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So you have to work on establishing

relationship here, which means

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getting clear about who you are.

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And if you are a group of coaches working

together, then there should be some, some

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clarity and some insight as to who you

all are and what your goal is working

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together and your brand as a coaching.

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What's the transformation that's on offer.

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pretty much see those things very quickly.

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When I land on your page, I want to

be able to get to know you a bit more.

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I want to know a little bit about

you, your background, maybe to hear

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about your coaching certifications.

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It might not feel super relevant

and probably clients will never

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ask you about those in reality.

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But for establishing your credibility

here, this is where you need to earn

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the right to get people to trust you.

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This could be a great place to use

video video is a really even just audio

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as a way to start to establish some

connection if you are a podcaster or

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you've been a podcast guest or you've

been doing video or live streams then

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you may want to feature some of that on

your homepage of your site so that people

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do start to get a sense of who you are.

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They can see that this isn't a website

that has just been set up, like

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maybe yesterday morning and someone

could be doing the scam website.

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Scam websites can get set up pretty

quickly and can have very limited

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information and be asking for sales

but not delivering on that and then

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they'll disappear just as quickly.

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So how do people know that they

can trust you and start to have

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some relationship with you?

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you You need to start putting

in some information in your

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site that creates relationship

and rapport with your audience.

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So that's part of your personal

brand, your professional

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branding for the website.

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That should start to be clear.

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Maybe what your mission is as

well and a list of products and

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services that are available for you.

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It might just be one primary product.

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Great.

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if that's what you've got,

then put that on the website.

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That's what you can lead with.

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And maybe you can add additional

services, small fee services, maybe

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even advertise some high end stuff.

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You might even want to

create a waiting list.

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There should definitely be some way for

people to get something from you that

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causes them to have to give you their

Email address in relation to that so

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that you can follow up with them This

is usually what we call a lead magnet.

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And if you haven't encountered lead

magnets before all that really is

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Something that's going to pull someone in

say oh that looks like really good value

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That's something I need to know about

it's free Kind of because the payment

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for that is your contact information your

name your email address Maybe your mobile

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phone number That's then a way for you to

follow up with people to bring them into

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a nurture email sequence to message by

mobile maybe even to connect on social

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media to be able to follow up with them.

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This isn't something that some Social

media mogul can take away from you.

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If you've built up Let's say you

build up your community on facebook

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and you've got your facebook page

and it's doing really well And I know

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people this has happened to as well.

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So this is not by any means a crazy

hypothetical But your page gets

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closed down And you don't know why.

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Maybe someone's made a complaint, or

maybe it's just happened by accident.

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And even if they can get it back up for

you, going through often a very difficult

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and lengthy procedure of following up

with people there, and getting hold

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of anyone who can actually help you,

even when you've done that, There's

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no guarantee that you're going to have

everything there that was there before.

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You may have to start from scratch.

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So there's a lot of danger in building

up your brand and your customer base

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and your following on social media

platforms that it could all disappear.

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So even if you have good presence on

whatever platform or platforms you use,

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you still want to be ideally driving

people to your website so that they can

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connect with you and you can connect

with them you Off of social media

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as well so they can be seeing you in

their inbox So this means you may want

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to start to develop an interest in

some email marketing and I do highly

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recommend that However, that's not

primarily what we're here to talk about.

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We're talking about websites

for coaches So really are there

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any other essentials than that?

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Well, yeah, I would say Definitely make

sure there's good information about

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you be friendly Be a bit more than

just a coach let them into your life

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a little bit with some Vulnerability

things you enjoy a little maybe a little

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bit information about your family and

where you live nothing super personal

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nothing that's going to allow anyone to

stalk you online or anything like that,

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but Enough to that they get a sense

that not just that you are a coach but

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that you're a real person who they can

connect with and either like or not

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like they can either Come further into

your world and say oh that's not really

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for me That's exactly what you want.

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You don't want everybody

to like your page.

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We're not even going for that.

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We don't want to be people pleasers.

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We don't need, want or

need everyone to like us.

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That's not going to help you at all.

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It just means you end

up trying to be bland.

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So be very clear about what you, what

you want to offer, who you want to help.

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And so it should be, I say this, I say

this as well, it should be super clear.

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If I land on your homepage, I should be

able to tell within seconds What kind

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of page I've landed on now I often say

there's two speakers for our work because

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I work with a lot of speakers Much more

than coaches And if I land on their page

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and I can't tell that it's a speaker's

page, I'm going to tell them that.

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How are you going to get booked

for speaking gigs if it's not very

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clear what your page is about?

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If it's not clear, if I'm not clear on

what you speak about or that you are

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even a speaker, if I don't see an image

of you on a stage speaking or something

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that at least looks like that, I'm

going to straight away start to think,

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Oh, this isn't what I was looking for.

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Or I don't really know

what's going on here.

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Confusion is the last thing you want.

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So you want clarity on this.

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It doesn't need to be there.

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It's all white pages with just like

little bits of information here, like

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a Google search page, we don't need

to go to that level of minimalism,

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but we do want to keep things tight.

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So it should be like a brand

title, a tagline, an image

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of you doing what you do.

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So if you're a coach, maybe an

image of you coaching somebody.

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Yes, you may have to stage that I

wouldn't put up a picture of you

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coaching someone over zoom, maybe get

a photographer to take a picture of you

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in a situation that looks like you're

working with someone and coaching them.

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Great.

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Now take a picture.

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Take a look at some stock

images of people coaching.

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Don't use them necessarily.

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Maybe as a fill in until you get one for

yourself, but you'll often see somebody

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that somebody were at computer or writing

stuff down and somebody's standing, maybe

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a hand on their shoulder standing behind

them, helping them and talking to them.

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Clearly the coach or the

mentor in that situation.

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That's the image that you

want to be portraying.

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Now, maybe your coaching sessions

don't look like that in reality.

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But it's part of the it but that's part

of what you need to portray when people

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land on your website So to this degree,

yeah, that's kind of about how you look

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as a coach So how you dress for that

image is also going to be important

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how you look your energy All of those

things are going to be important.

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Don't get too hung up on this.

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One of the, one of the best things

you can do as a coach is go and take

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a look at other coaches websites.

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In fact, if you do go and visit

something like coachbuilder.

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com, they have A free list of examples

and yes, it's like a lead magnet for

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them because you're going to have to

exchange your Your contact information to

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get hold of this but go to coachbuilder.

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com I've certainly found that tool helpful

and they have a list of I think something

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like 17 different coaching websites that

you can get a pdf version of To get an

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idea of the kinds of things that you may

or may not want to have on your coaching

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website home page but Really useful thing.

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I do think still websites are very

important for your credibility.

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And yes, there are other things you could

use instead, but I would suggest at this

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point in where things are with life and

business to use stuff in conjunction with

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your website rather than instead of it.

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So whilst you could potentially get

away with just a LinkedIn page or a

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Facebook page for your business, I don't.

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I don't personally recommend that.

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I think you're far better off

credibility wise that you have a

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website, you have a domain name that

reflects the coaching that you do.

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My domain name is my business name,

my coaching operating name for

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the, um, for the speaker services

that I offer at presentinfluence.

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com.

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So you really want to have something

like that for yourself that is

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going to make it look professional.

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So just having a free website, which is

going to have a non white labeled header.

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If you use a service like Wix or

something like that, it's going to

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show that you're using a free service.

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It doesn't fill your client's

brain with confidence that

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you are legit as an operator.

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If you're doing a free website and you

haven't even purchased a domain name,

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It's going to weaken the level of trust.

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So maybe it's enough for getting

started and I would say better

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that than nothing at all.

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But you can get a domain name

for so little money these days,

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it doesn't have to be a dot com,

although I would still say there is.

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a level of confidence that comes

with having a dot com address as

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well, but if you're in the UK, co.

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uk, co you can use.

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I think I've seen biz

and other things as well.

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So go with one that fits with

your budget and feels relevant

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for you, but have a solid domain

that you can use with a website.

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And not just having a

free service out there.

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You want to, you want to look

legitimate and respectable as a coach.

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Your goal is to be establishing a

feeling of competence that you, not

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only do you know what you're talking

about, but you have experience that

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you have that people feel invited in.

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there's some level of warmth

and saying, all right, come in,

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let's take you on this journey.

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Uh, let's connect, connect our worlds.

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If that feels right for you, that's

our goal here with the website.

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Now I'm sure that there are coaching

website experts who will give you

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far more insight and maybe better

insight than I will right here.

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So this is very much just an

overview from a perspective of a

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coach who has a coaching website.

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And he's been doing a lot of work

on that recently as well, that I

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hope is going to be helpful for you.

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So let us know, are you struggling

with your coaching website?

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Are you having some challenges there?

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Are you going to check out some of the

resources that we've shared with you?

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What's your, what are your biggest

challenges as a coach right now?

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If you would like to get in touch

with us, one of the best ways to do

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that is to contact us on LinkedIn.

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And if you use this through your

mobile app or your iPhone, you

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with the LinkedIn app, you can send

voice messages and video messages.

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That could be a great way to get in touch

with us and it doesn't cost you anything.

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You can also leave a voicemail for

myself and Angie for up to, I think up

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to 90 seconds, completely free online.

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You will need a microphone,

of course, to do this.

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Go to speakpipe.

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com forward slash thecoachingclinic.

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podcast that speakpipe.

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com forward slash the

coaching clinic podcast.

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Now, I don't know yet if Angie

is going to be back with us

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for the next episode or not.

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We don't have our usual episode

buffer right now due to various

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bouts of sickness between the

two of us over the winter months.

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However, hopefully Angie will

be back with us very soon.

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I'm also going to try and bring you

an interview With an author of a great

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book on coaching that I think you could

find very helpful as well So i'll tell

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you more about that nearer the time and

Right now let's close the doors to the

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coaching clinic for this week and see

you again very soon Have an awesome week

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About the Podcast

The Coaching Clinic
The HEart of Coaching from learning to client sessions, starting to scaling, we've got you covered.
She's direct and he's diplomatic but Angie Besignano and John Ball are both successful coaches with years of coaching experience and very different delivery styles.
Each episode will tackle a different coaching problem from both styles of coaching, with occasional guest coaches and audience interaction. We're going to have some fun digging into your biggest coaching challenges and helping you become an even better coach.

About your hosts

John Ball

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From former flight attendant to international coach and trainer, on to podcaster and persuasion expert, it's been quite the journey for John.
John has been a lead coach and trainer with the Harv Eker organisation for over 10 years and is currently focused on helping his clients develop their personal presentation skills for media and speaking stages through his coaching business brand Present Influence.
He's the author of the upcoming book Podfluence: How To Build Professional Authority With Podcasts, and host of the Podfluence podcast with over 150 episodes and over 15,000 downloads John is now focused on helping business coaches and speakers to build a following and grow your lead flow and charisma.
You can now also listen to John on The Coaching Clinic podcast with his good friend and colleague Angie Besignano where they are helping coaches create sustainable and successful businesses, and the Try To Stand Up podcast where John is on a personal and professional mission to become funnier on the stage and in his communication.

Angie Besignano

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With early beginnings as an entry-level manager in the sales industry, Angie has spent more than 3 decades building her knowledge and expertise to create her master coaching and speaking brand, AngieSpeaks. After climbing the professional ladder, she started her own company and decided to focus her practice on High Performance Coaching. In doing so, she challenges individuals to elevate and grow, no matter what level they are at currently in their personal or professional lives.
Angie has created a strong following through her “tough” but “pragmatic” approach and challenges her clients to find the space that is holding them back the most. In doing so, their outcomes not only compound, but take root, so that results can be permanent. The tools she provides work in the “real” world and show up in their first interaction.
Angie has an unwavering passion toward the journey that fosters a true transformation for those that work with her. She delivers her content and speaking engagements with an authentic enthusiasm and curiosity that creates trust and rapport, allowing for a heightened experience.